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    Thread: General MacArthur's Packard - Very Cool......

    1. Get Off My Lawn!!! vwlarry's Avatar
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      05-12-2012 06:03 PM #1
      I've been buying up all the back issues of Special Interest Autos magazine I can get my hands on lately. They're like the Dead Sea Scrolls for automotive history geeks like me, and they're not very expensive on ebay. This article seemed like it might be interesting for a select group of TCLers. Packard was the world's first automaker to offer factory air-conditioned cars to the public, in 1940, and this Clipper that the General used in the Pacific Theatre had this then-rare and exclusive feature, among others just for him. I love it that he wrote a check for the car and sent it to Detroit, but Packard returned it to him, uncashed. Kind of classy on both parts. Enjoy!







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    2. 05-12-2012 07:09 PM #2
      Thanks for posting this. I haven't looked into that publication; I like getting my hands on 70's and 80's CAR, Car and Driver, R&T, etc and I get into the personal interest and specialty stories. The photography on R&T Salon has always been outstanding as well; can't tell what year the photos are from. I'm also a history buff (with the worthless piece of paper to prove it). I find it fascinating that this car followed MacArthur around during the war; I assumed he was into Jeeps and PT Boats.



      Any idea how well the A/C did or did not work? I didn't realize A/C was available this early; I kind of thought we were talking mid 1950's before it existed. I've got to assume that sucker could freeze you out on old school Freon.
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      05-12-2012 07:17 PM #4
      Was it McArthur or Eisenhower that used a Stout Scarab as a map car?
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      05-12-2012 07:26 PM #5
      That really is an incredible story.
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      05-12-2012 08:22 PM #6
      Quote Originally Posted by Jrod511 View Post
      Thanks for posting this. I haven't looked into that publication; I like getting my hands on 70's and 80's CAR, Car and Driver, R&T, etc and I get into the personal interest and specialty stories. The photography on R&T Salon has always been outstanding as well; can't tell what year the photos are from. I'm also a history buff (with the worthless piece of paper to prove it). I find it fascinating that this car followed MacArthur around during the war; I assumed he was into Jeeps and PT Boats.



      Any idea how well the A/C did or did not work? I didn't realize A/C was available this early; I kind of thought we were talking mid 1950's before it existed. I've got to assume that sucker could freeze you out on old school Freon.
      MacArthur was very fond of the trappings of power, and being chauffered around in a big Packard was right up his alley. The A/C in these cars, judging by the A/C in the cars I occasionally got to ride in when I was a kid (a few GM and AMC relative's cars from the late fifties and sixties had factory air) was probably "arctic" to the point where it might have become uncomfortable, since the refinements of temperature regulation had not been fully developed yet. In fact, on the first Packard air conditioned cars, the compressor belt had to be removed to turn the damned thing off. There was no electro-magnetic clutch to disengage the pulley.
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      05-12-2012 08:30 PM #7
      What happened to that car?

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      05-12-2012 09:44 PM #8
      So cool, wouldnt want to be a driver of anything non MRAP or armored this day and age though. I'll be more than happy to be a driver for a VIP in a MATV though.

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      05-12-2012 10:08 PM #9
      From WWII weekend in Reading, PA:



      More here:

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    10. 05-12-2012 11:31 PM #10
      Quote Originally Posted by vwlarry View Post
      probably "arctic" to the point where it might have become uncomfortable, since the refinements of temperature regulation had not been fully developed yet. In fact, on the first Packard air conditioned cars, the compressor belt had to be removed to turn the damned thing off. There was no electro-magnetic clutch to disengage the pulley.
      God, that was designed for me. I want icy bits of air hitting me.
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    11. 05-12-2012 11:33 PM #11
      Quote Originally Posted by Isambard View Post
      From WWII weekend in Reading, PA:
      I went to that last year; it was pretty awesome!
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      05-12-2012 11:54 PM #12
      Quote Originally Posted by Jrod511 View Post
      I went to that last year; it was pretty awesome!
      It's a great time. The landing approach to one of the runways is right over my house. Like directly over my house

      We get quite a show! The Blue Angels used to come when I was little. Now that was something to see flying low over the house!

    13. 05-13-2012 12:13 AM #13
      His digital camera kind of kills the moment

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      05-13-2012 12:20 AM #14
      Quote Originally Posted by Jrod511 View Post
      His digital camera kind of kills the moment
      Just a little bit

      I'm digging through my older pictures. Do any of the classic car buffs know what this is?

      Edit: It is late and my eyes hurt and I did not realize this is the car in the OP



      This show is held the first week of June. I'll try to get pictures of all the cars and start a thread.
      Last edited by Isambard; 05-13-2012 at 12:34 AM.

    15. 05-13-2012 12:25 AM #15
      Quote Originally Posted by Isambard View Post
      Do any of the classic car buffs know what this is?

      Wait, is that not the car that this thread was originally about, my daily caffiene supply is running low at this hour.

      If anyone likes old cars, old planes, 1940's fashion and music, WWII, or the sound of a 70 year old warbird turning AV Gas into sonic pleasure, or any combination of said things, you've got to check out this show. It's HUGE

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      05-13-2012 12:32 AM #16
      Wait... uhhhh yes you are right. It is late and my contacts are blurry

      If anyone likes old cars, old planes, 1940's fashion and music, WWII, or the sound of a 70 year old warbird turning AV Gas into sonic pleasure, or any combination of said things, you've got to check out this show. It's HUGE
      Agreed. Huge is the only way to describe it. I might get the fiance out to the swing dances they have on Friday and Saturday night.

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      05-13-2012 12:35 AM #17
      Thanks Larry!
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      05-13-2012 12:44 AM #18
      Digging his pipe holder, on what looks to be the back of the front seat

      thanks for the scan Larry, the quality is great too
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      05-14-2012 12:48 AM #19
      I look forward to these post of cars I have no clue about from our past from Larry.
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