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    Thread: New VR6 N/A Dyno Thread

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      That sounds good to me. Thx

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      06-03-2011 04:38 PM #72
      I don't think the software will work if the car isn't moving...

      Stock head/block, ITBs, 268s, standalone



      Forgot I had that one saved.
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      06-04-2011 04:50 PM #73
      Anyone in here dyno on a Dyno Dynamics dyno?
      I ran mine on one and it put down 170whp. The dyno tech said that it was a 35% drivetrain loss dyno, and that I am somwhere around 230Crank hp. I would like to get up on a dyno jet so I can realistically compare to many of you on here.

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      06-04-2011 07:32 PM #74
      mine was done on dyno dynamics
      my best was this run which is roughly 180 whp
      i was expecting at least 190 for the work iv done.

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      06-04-2011 10:01 PM #75
      I just ran my 1995 jetta on the dump and got 155 hp and 154 tq. It's got 103,xxx miles and no muffler and a spectre air filter

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      06-05-2011 07:24 AM #76
      Quote Originally Posted by need_a_VR6 View Post
      I don't think the software will work if the car isn't moving...

      Stock head/block, ITBs, 268s, standalone

      Forgot I had that one saved.
      Do you have a sound clip of this car? I wonder how awesome itb's sound on a vr6. I used to know a guy with stand off itb's on a honda. It was one of the coolest looking engines I have ever seen in action.

      ITB's sound sooo good.
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      06-08-2011 10:37 AM #77
      Forgive me if this sounds like a really dumb question, but, what are the characteristics of running an ITB setup? Is it safe to assume that it's not all that different from an SRI?

      Also, where are my muffler bearings and can I change them myself?

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      06-08-2011 11:01 AM #78
      Quote Originally Posted by Light on Fuel View Post
      Also, where are my muffler bearings and can I change them myself?
      Prolly best to drop the exhaust for better access... but you should be able to replaced them yourself....

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      06-08-2011 11:22 AM #79
      Quote Originally Posted by Scotty_2.0 View Post
      Prolly best to drop the exhaust for better access... but you should be able to replaced them yourself....

      That's the funniest $..t! Someone on here had that question as their signature. My brother, who does autobody, once sent a helper to the store to pick up bumper gasket bearings and told him not to return until he found them.

      But, can anyone address the ITB question?

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      06-08-2011 06:53 PM #80
      ITB's are completely different from an sri. Real itb's do not run a plenum. You have to have a pretty beast engine to get the full potential out of them. High compression, nice size cams and a good port job you can make some decent power out of them.

      However you have to run stand alone with them and a good tune.

      The only real reason for a plenum is to be able to have vacuum or a turbo... But ITB's with FI is a waste of money IMO.

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      They sound nasty on almost all engines

      Or you can get real dumb and get stand off ITB'S
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsKNbsDqEPs

      ORRR you can be a baller and do this
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ba8sT...eature=related
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      06-08-2011 11:23 PM #81
      That second link is the same car as the dyno I posted. It went 11.7s at best, with me driving only a 12.3... Ha.

      I ended up putting those throttles on Derek Bakers top dawg winning/pvw featured show car. Not sure where they ended up...
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      06-09-2011 09:02 AM #82
      That is bad ass! I wanna go forced induction on my current ride, but I also wanna get an MKI body and drop a VR in it. These ITB's would go very nicely on that sort of car.

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      06-23-2011 09:23 AM #83
      Going to dyno again same place as last time Saturday. Turns out my iat sensor was still running the Vr sensor. I found it dangling when I changed my starter... so I had secondary air wire plugged into the 1.8t sensor Haha. So I will have that and the ported manifold / tt down pipe / cat delete.

      A friend is taking his g60 Nitrous rabbit so I figured I would run it again to see what gains I got from the manifold if any
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    14. 06-23-2011 02:29 PM #84
      you really ought to practice your launches @ Matt Green... my best so far is 9.72 ... here's the data from that run...

      .5498 reaction
      2.3611 60ft
      6.4002 330ft
      9.1184 @ 594ft
      9.7292 @ 73.67 mph ETA

      I don't claim to be at all fantastic, don't claim to be much of a dragger, but this was with a GIAC chip and a homemade cold air intake and a 11lb flywheel. I dyno'd 159whp a few years before this, but there were no mods between them.

      There is SO much time in the launch!
      Looking for ONE Luff M1 19x8.5 5x112 et48 wheel... please let me know if you have one available.

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      06-23-2011 03:35 PM #85
      None of my times were launched. I launched once and it spun. So the other 2 runs were puss foot take offs. I've been practicing my 60 foot times
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    16. 06-24-2011 12:23 PM #86
      my best times were basically without anything more than a fast "street" launch... there's some nice torque down low to get ya outta the hole... of course like I said, I'm not an extreme frequenter of the strip.
      Looking for ONE Luff M1 19x8.5 5x112 et48 wheel... please let me know if you have one available.

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      06-25-2011 05:19 PM #87
      After gasket matching and porting my exhaust manifold matched up with a TT downpipe and a cat delete It opened up the motor A LOT. This engine suprises me on how sensitive it is to modifications. Reminder this is a stock long block and the dyno was done at the same shop by the same guy in the same gear (4th). So thats 12whp and 15 ft/lbs from some exhaust work.



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      06-25-2011 07:54 PM #88
      I finally got around to dynoing my car, wasn't even planning to, but found a shop while I was out. I'm satisfied with the numbers, but want more power eventually. The guy that dynoed it had problems with the tachometer cable, so even though I'm only showing one dyno run here, he ran 4 total today, first was 168 second was 170, third was 169, and final right here. This was done on Dynojet.127,000 on motor.

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      06-26-2011 01:56 AM #89
      Quote Originally Posted by Vee-DubbVR6 View Post



      170whp/ 163trq

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      god damn... i think i'm going to sell my VR now...

      a GTI 1.8T with just a Revo Stage 1 chip makes 165 WHP................................
      http://www.dragtimes.com/Volkswagen-...lip-13263.html

      259 WHP a 3" exhaust and ATP GT2X turbo
      http://www.dragtimes.com/Volkswagen-...lip-12833.html
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      Quote Originally Posted by SaleenEatedUrVDubb View Post
      Hey guys I have a 2.0 but I can't really hear my Turbo. What BoV should I get?

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      06-26-2011 12:12 PM #90
      Quote Originally Posted by BlazinVR View Post
      god damn... i think i'm going to sell my VR now...

      a GTI 1.8T with just a Revo Stage 1 chip makes 165 WHP................................
      http://www.dragtimes.com/Volkswagen-...lip-13263.html

      259 WHP a 3" exhaust and ATP GT2X turbo
      http://www.dragtimes.com/Volkswagen-...lip-12833.html
      Its all about what you want... If your looking for minimal mods and maximum horsepower you need to sell your vr and buy something from a different car manufacturer..

      LS3 6.2 makes 422 hp out of the box. So if thats what your looking for hop on it and let us drive what we like
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      06-26-2011 01:58 PM #91
      And you can watch me bitch smack a 28r mk4.

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      06-26-2011 03:46 PM #92
      Quote Originally Posted by root beer View Post
      And you can watch me bitch smack a 28r mk4.
      damn... your all motor 12v runs 12.43 on the 1/4? i take it you must have aftermarket pistons (like wiseco) and rods?
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      Hey guys I have a 2.0 but I can't really hear my Turbo. What BoV should I get?

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      06-26-2011 05:29 PM #93
      Hes stock block, its how to roll.
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      06-27-2011 10:26 AM #94
      Stock motor is the real way to roll.
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      06-28-2011 12:29 PM #95
      Quote Originally Posted by BlazinVR View Post
      god damn... i think i'm going to sell my VR now...
      ^^^Looks like you'll need to change your screen name then

      Hey Matt, would you be able to post a sound clip? Is there a noticable difference after the GM?

      Root Beer: I saw your YouTube vids (sick car, awesome hook up) but what all do you have done to the car?
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      06-28-2011 04:25 PM #96
      Quote Originally Posted by root beer View Post
      And you can watch me bitch smack a 28r mk4.
      Damn straight. Numbers don't matter.
      I walk on revo stage 2 mkIVs all day.

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      06-28-2011 10:42 PM #97
      i think i will keep the VR6 now .

      what kind of setups are you guys running? i'm interested in getting 13's (on the quarter mile) out of my MK4 GTI VR6. i'm thinking DRC 268's with a GIAC cam chip would be a good start? what do you guys think?
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      Hey guys I have a 2.0 but I can't really hear my Turbo. What BoV should I get?

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      Alright, lets get back to dynos and take it to pm.

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      06-28-2011 10:52 PM #99
      Quote Originally Posted by BlazinVR View Post
      i think i will keep the VR6 now .

      what kind of setups are you guys running? i'm interested in getting 13's (on the quarter mile) out of my MK4 GTI VR6. i'm thinking DRC 268's with a GIAC cam chip would be a good start? what do you guys think?
      Those are a good start, along with some good motor mounts cuz factory mounts flex like a mofo!

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      06-29-2011 05:08 PM #100
      Quote Originally Posted by root beer View Post
      Alright, lets get back to dynos and take it to pm.
      wtf you think you're a moderator or something?


      [edit dyno so he doesn't deduct user points!]



      Strong runner, ported + gutted VGI w OBD2 tb.
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      06-29-2011 09:11 PM #101
      Quote Originally Posted by need_a_VR6 View Post
      wtf you think you're a moderator or something?


      [edit dyno so he doesn't deduct user points!]

      Strong runner, ported + gutted VGI w OBD2 tb.

      any other mods?
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      Hey guys I have a 2.0 but I can't really hear my Turbo. What BoV should I get?

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      06-29-2011 10:25 PM #102
      Probably 10lb fw, ur pulleys, mk4 gasket, 262s, t2 intake, test pipe, 2.5tt exh, tt springs, race shop headwork... Stock block giac chip.
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      06-30-2011 09:50 AM #103
      Quote Originally Posted by need_a_VR6 View Post
      wtf you think you're a moderator or something?


      [edit dyno so he doesn't deduct user points!]



      Strong runner, ported + gutted VGI w OBD2 tb.
      You put that down with just a ported & gutted VGI and a OBD2 throttle body? And I thought the 96 VR6 came with an OBD2 tb or did you mean ported OBD2 tb? Could you let me know asap? Because I'm thinking about getting a shrick vgi manifold but I hear that they don't add much performance for the price. I see them go for around $800 to $1000. Could you let me know if I could get around the same hp & tq by adding a shrick vgi to my set up?
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      neuspeed pullies & chip, autotech 262 with lightweight lifters, ported exhaust manifolds & downpipe, flowmaster muffler. evo heatshield manifold spacer.
      Thanks for any help.

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      06-30-2011 04:56 PM #104
      No original is

      Probably 10lb fw, ur pulleys, mk4 gasket, 262s, t2 intake, test pipe, 2.5tt exh, tt springs, ... Stock block giac chip.

      second dyno is that +

      race shop head, ported manifolds, ported dp, gutted VGI and OBD2 tb

      My car is OBD1 so the OBD2 tb is a bit bigger. My VGI didn't have the flapper so no tq spike down low.

      Sorry to be vague but that's what I remember, it was a few years ago.
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    35. 06-30-2011 06:08 PM #105
      Paul how did you Gut your VGI I am curious about doing that to mine since the flapper is broken and just rattles anyway.

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