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    Thread: '02 1.8T Jetta not shifting gears from 1st, when cold

    1. 07-08-2009 03:45 PM #51
      Hi, all,
      I have the exact the same problem. I bought the 2003 1.8T Jetta from a person and I did not have the car checked. The car has the transmission problem on the 4th day. I brought to dealer. They asked for $6500 for a new transmission.
      Could anyone tell me where I can get the N92 solenoid? I asked the dealer and they do not know about it.

    2. 07-08-2009 06:27 PM #52
      I got mine from http://1stvwparts.com. The N92 solenoid is part#: 09A927331A and the ATF fluid is part#: G052990A2.

    3. 07-26-2009 02:03 PM #53
      is this the same on a 98 jetta?? i have the same issue and think i can solve it with the N92 solenoid if it is the same as these newer cars. thanks

    4. 07-29-2009 09:07 AM #54
      I am at a shop right now with a similar problem. The car ahs been notcibly shiftin from 1-2 and 2-3 and I got in the car this morning and it would not shift out of first for a few minutes. I am goign to let them see if they can figure it out and if not then I guess I will be trying the N92 solenoid.
      Since I will be in there already changing that solenoid is it worth it to change out any others with the noticible shifts from 2-3 as well?

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      07-31-2009 05:53 PM #55
      Quote, originally posted by AustinGT »
      I am at a shop right now with a similar problem. The car ahs been notcibly shiftin from 1-2 and 2-3 and I got in the car this morning and it would not shift out of first for a few minutes. I am goign to let them see if they can figure it out and if not then I guess I will be trying the N92 solenoid.
      Since I will be in there already changing that solenoid is it worth it to change out any others with the noticible shifts from 2-3 as well?

      I would say no. The N92 should fix it.

    6. 08-01-2009 11:17 AM #56
      FYI to everyone that comes across this...

      If you get your car high enough in the revs, put it in tip mode and it will probably be reading 3rd gear, if you push the tip lever up to shift to 4th, it will shift. 4th gear does not use n92, so you just need to get the vehicle speed up high enough to allow the TCM to think its ready for 4th gear. I've done this on my wife's car a few time, the shift is pretty harsh going from the top of 4th to the bottom of 1th but it does work.
      I'll soon be doing the N92 solenoid, just need to figure out the other 2 problems im having so i can take car of them all at once.

    7. 08-01-2009 04:49 PM #57
      just as ASPARAGII has I have an '02 jetta 1.8T with the exact same transmission problem, do you think that I'm gonna have to tear apart the transmission to replace the faulty solenoid? my car is still under warranty but I got a feeling that the joke of a warranty that I have they will tell me that the warranty doesn't cover it and I was just wanting to know if I am facing $2000+ to get a single solenoid replaced. I read on a previous posts that you were able to replace the solenoid yourself for around 350 dollars yourself, could you email me the procedure to headshot450@netzero.net? I would be willing to try it if it's not too difficult, I have a highly experienced mechanic in my family who's willing to help me with the repairs. I would appreciate any advice you have.

    8. 08-01-2009 10:00 PM #58
      i believe the $350 in this post was including labor at a shop. the n92 solinoid is around $100 from what i have found. do a search on how to change a n92 solinoid and it comes up with tons of helpful and detailed info. good luck!

    9. 08-04-2009 01:01 PM #59
      Hello everybody. I'm new at this vwforum, and i hope i can find some wise advice about my loved car. It's a Golf GTi 2002, 1,8T with 5vel tiptronic 75000Km road, and in great shape. a month ago it started with the same troubel i read in many issues in this forum. At morning when the motor is cold, it don't change from 1st gear, until it becomes hot then the shifts occur fine and smooth. And this fact as i read, is not new with 09a gearshift . some facts that i find:
      1. with cold motor and car, when i go downhill, the motor goes over 5000rpm, in 1st gear. If the car velocity passes 40 km/h it autom change to 4th gear. If i brake an slowdown under 40 km/h (School area) i have a rough gearchange to 1st gear with high speed rev of the motor.
      2. Wilth cold motor , I can go downhill in neutral position until the car reach 40 Km/h and i fell a smouth pullback, then i pass to D pos and gear shift goes immediatly to 4º gear.
      3. After 5-8min road the car became hot and the problem dissapear, the changes go right the whole day, unless the car rest stopped a couple of hours. The the problem happen again for few minutes on road.
      I've read the gearshift self study manual and learn a lot about automatic gears ( i'm not on mechanics), and talk a lot with my VW mechanics. Here is where i need some help: We can't clarify if we have to change the road speed sensor (no part number allowed!!), the thermal sensor beside, or change the N92 solenoid, or the whole body valve .
      As you all see, is hard to decide
      I live in La Paz a city over 3600 m over sea level, it has something to do the Oxi sensor?
      Any idea ??
      Heeeeeelp, vw gods are going to be bless you

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      08-04-2009 02:03 PM #60
      I had the exact same problem with my last jetta. All I did was change solonoid N92 and change the fluid and it was fine. GL

    11. 08-12-2009 08:46 PM #61
      I have changed N92 solenoid and put everything together. But the car won't start. I think it is because the shifter position may be changed. When I took the shifter cable arm to the transmission gear selector (do not know the exact term here), I changed the gear selector position. I think likely it is the reason. Could anyone tell me when the shifter is in park position, where the gear position should be? It should be turned far right, right?
      Appreciate your help.

    12. 08-13-2009 02:10 AM #62
      Hi all, I was just about to buy a used 2002 Jetta 1.8T with the Tiptronic when I found this thread.
      Do you recommend staying clear??
      Or is this N92 solenoid the solution to all our ills?
      Like any of us, I can't afford the money or frustration of this problem. And I'm not a mechanic at all. Thanks in advance!

    13. 08-15-2009 11:20 AM #63
      Just want to report back that the 2003 Jetta 1.8 T tramsmission is fixed after changing the N92 solenoid.
      I could not figure out how to pull the transmission back to give more space. For N92 solenoid, you may not need to do that, but just work in a tighter space to remove the screws.
      Here is where I got my N92 solenoid
      Makco Distributing, Inc.
      4255 Bryson Blvd.
      Florence, AL 35630
      Their part number is 98423A, the price is about $65 each. For other solenoid, you need to call them and may send them the picture so they can locate the correct parts for you.
      transmission fluid $11 per liter
      EuroPartsAmerica, LLC
      Only thing you need to pay attention is that when you remove the N92 solenoid, make sure you do not let the stud retreat back to the hole. It is a pain to get it out. What I did is to go to autozone to buy the magnetic pickup tool, and get the magnet out and grind it to the size of the screw, use a flat side of a nail to pull the stud out. better watch out when you pull the N92 solenoid.
      I want to thank everyone for your sharing here. and I hope this information help someone else.
      Best,

    14. 09-10-2009 11:50 AM #64
      I have a 2004 Jetta TDI with 5 Speed Tiptronic. 225K miles. Changed Tranny fluid every 50K. It started to do exactly was has beed discussed in the forum. Will not shift out of 1st gear until its warm. Then it works ok. Dealer says it needs a new transmission for 5K.
      Well she it not worth 5K in value. Could it just be that same N92 Valve? Any feedback would be helpful.

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      11-06-2009 10:10 PM #65
      Well i'm a bit confused cause when i went to the dealer to ask about the n92 solenoind they told me it was actualy the valve body @ $1500????? parts only whats the deal with that am i just talking to a vw tech and parts guy that doesnt know what he's talking about. not to comforting to get it svsed there.
      does anyone have a break down or picture so i can hopefully prove to these guys that they need to go back to school.

    16. 11-10-2009 09:17 AM #66
      01M for $200??? Wut a deal LOL [IMG]http://**********************/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]

    17. 12-02-2009 02:48 PM #67
      Wow a lot of people had good luck with N92 ey? Wonder why it doesn't show a code in the scan then?
      Just to give everyone an update - I ended up converting my car to a manual! Pretty extreme, but I'd rather drive a manual anyway - better mileage, more reliable and the cost was the same as getting a rebuilt 09A installed.
      Ended up costing me $2500 - as I said getting rebuilt 09A installed was the same price. Don't pay $6500 to a VW dealer - that's criminal.
      Ended up going through VW dealer in Wheeling, VW for the job. A good bloke called Walt did a great job. Couple pointers - I got the 5speed tranny installed and this requires a new ECM (~$700), or living with the check engine light permanently on and no cruise control. Apparently the 4 speed manual conversion can use your existing auto ECM and be reprogrammed - I didn't find this out till too late. I can't buy a used ECM, as the immobilizer needs to be linked to it and VW don't release their immobilizer codes (they did up to 3 years ago, but don't now). I don't use cruise control much and can live with the check engine light on for a while. Some disgruntled Tech may write a program at some point allowing immobilizer code to be pulled - till then I'll wait.
      Never checked the N92 solenoid - prolly would have been a good first step, but I'm happy with the manual anyway. This was beating me up for too long and now good to have increased control and reliability, of an otherwise very nice car!
      Regards,
      David

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      12-02-2009 07:04 PM #68
      Quote, originally posted by asparagii »
      Wow a lot of people had good luck with N92 ey? Wonder why it doesn't show a code in the scan then?

      Because the solenoid sticks mechanically. Its not a electrical problem that the computer can "see". If its driven long enough and is sticking bad enough it might trigger codes.
      Last edited by CoolAirVw; 02-21-2014 at 04:06 PM.
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    19. 12-13-2009 05:29 PM #69
      Add me to the "when cold not shifting out of 1st, replaced n92 now works great list"
      Some notes:
      I didnt remove the pan all the way so I didnt pull the engine/tranny back with a tie down. I unbolted it then just sat it back and down, there is enough room to get the n92 replaced without wiggling the pan all the way off. I cleaned off as much old sealant as I could being carefull not to let any fall back into the "guts" then reapplied some new sealant.
      I have zero idea what the torque specs are on the 20 bolts that hold the transmition oil pan on but they snap easily.... ask me how i know

    20. 12-14-2009 04:07 AM #70
      Quote, originally posted by SoniCraze »
      Add me to the "when cold not shifting out of 1st, replaced n92 now works great list"

      me too

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      12-19-2009 07:47 PM #71
      I've marked this thread for future reading and reference.
      I'm picking up a '03 Jetta for cheap, on the basis it has the exact problem as described in this thread.
      The more I read into it, the more i'm tempted to convert it to manual - which is what I really wanted in the first place.
      Want to roll your fenders or Lamin-X your lights in clear or yellow for THE ABSOLUTE CHEAPEST PRICE IN THE GTA? IM me!
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      01-08-2010 01:12 AM #72
      I had my N92 solenoid replaced today, as well as a fluid change.
      I went on the cheap and used Mobil semi-synth Mercon-V. Seems like the full synthetic stuff is NLA - at least in Toronto it is. Going to drive it for a few weeks, and then do another drain & fill.
      So far so good. I'll update this tomorrow, after I let the car sit outside in -20*c.
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      01-14-2010 03:02 PM #73
      I'm finding lots of folks fixing delayed upshift cold with N92 solenoid.
      I'm gonna post the threads here, and refer future folks to this thread..
      http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=4468503
      http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=4634051

      http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthrea...2#post67646892




      marked

      also, here's a couple threads where folks have given good info on changing solenoids.

      http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthrea...-Of-Valve-Body

      http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?1521077
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      01-14-2010 07:51 PM #74
      One week later, and the problem has not resurfaced.
      However - today, I did experience an unusually hard 1-2 shift.
      It happened once when I first started driving, and then, never again.
      I'll update.
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      02-10-2010 11:37 PM #75
      Just adding my experience to all the tranny threads I've been keeping track of.
      Symptoms: Slipping 1-2, 2-3 and usually bad going 3-2 with hard acceleration. Also when coming to a stop 2-1 I would get a little bump as the tranny shifted to 1. Also weird delay when taking foot off the gas and putting it back on, felt like the torque converter hesitated when locking.
      bought all 9 solenoids as a package (359 u.s. online) because I didn't want to figure out which ones were bad as there seemed to be more than one. Installed them and all symptoms are gone. It's like a new tranny. 2-3 is still not as responsive as the other gears but it feels like it did when i drove it off the lot over 7 years ago. The dealership recommended 20K ago that I rebuild the transmission..... lol.
      Thanks again CoolAirVW for the DIY and all the useful information.

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