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      05-13-2007 04:58 AM #1
      Buick? What others qualify? I have several friends with like 5-10 G's saved up that will only buy domestic. What could I recommend to them?

    2. 05-13-2007 05:02 AM #2
      3800 V6, 'nough said.

    3. 05-13-2007 05:08 AM #3
      Mustang, at that price, its the only one worth putting money into really.

    4. 05-13-2007 06:09 AM #4
      3800 V6. American pushrod that lives at relatively low RPMs, drinks gas like it's water , and runs for a looooong time. Cast iron block, 2 valves per cylinder. This engine was originally derived from Buick's V8 motor.
      As of 2007, it's been 45 years since the introduction of this engine in 1962.

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    6. 05-13-2007 07:26 AM #6
      Quote, originally posted by QuackDuck »
      drinks gas like it's water

      Actually the Lucerne 3.8 gets 19/28 (City/Hwy).


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      05-13-2007 08:07 AM #7
      If we're talking motors....GM's 350. It's been around for 35+ years and lasts forever!!


      Which prolly brings up GM's full size trucks.. Highest resale value usually reflects "most reliable". I can't think of too many other mass produced domestic that consistently has a higher resale value.

      Plus, I own one!! And, I love it!! (GMC Sierra)

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    8. 05-13-2007 10:40 AM #8
      Quote, originally posted by MGQ »

      Actually the Lucerne 3.8 gets 19/28 (City/Hwy).

      My 3100 gets 19MPG... 18MPG in the winter... This thing doesn't even have an AC =-/ *sigh* Very reliable though. Rust is the only problem on this car (who needs an AC anyways?).


    9. 05-13-2007 10:41 AM #9
      Quote, originally posted by lofapoo »
      3800 V6, 'nough said.

      Beat me to it.


    10. 05-13-2007 11:30 AM #10
      Small Block Chevy + auto trans.

      One of my brothers had a 3/4 ton pickup given to him as the prior owner had 130k miles on it and thought it used up.

      My brother drove it until the cab mounts rusted off and parked the truck with over 300k miles on the original engine and transmission.


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      05-13-2007 12:07 PM #11
      Chevrolet Prizm.

    12. 05-13-2007 12:11 PM #12
      For me the only really reliable domestic is GM, they run forever.

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      05-13-2007 12:13 PM #13
      FWIW, my brother owned a Pontiac Parissianne with the 305. it got over 300,000 miles before he sold it. That was replaced with a caprice with a 305 that had over 250,000 before that was sold. he now has a chevy pickup with a 350 and 150,000 going strong.

      I had a buick lesabre with the 3.8 and 180,000 before I sold it, and my wife had a regal with the 3.1 that had over 200k.

      Treat a GM car right, and the drivetrain will go forever.


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      05-13-2007 12:35 PM #14
      Ford Crown Vic or Merc Grand Marquis.

      Last you forever + 1.


    15. 05-13-2007 12:41 PM #15
      Quote, originally posted by Y2kSI »
      Chevrolet Prizm.

      Ha ha ha, I was gonna say Pontiac Vibe, but I guess it is out of the range. J/K

      Why oh why do people think the 3800 is more or less reliable than any other engine in GM's lineup? Are they filled with higher quality parts than say a 3400? Just curious because it is my experience that they are not as bulletproof as rumored (sludging, emissions problems etc.). Although I will admit that I have never seen one that had completely failed without reason to (as I have seen with many 2.8,3.1,3.4)


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      05-13-2007 12:41 PM #16
      Quote, originally posted by s_a_n_t_a »
      Buick? What others qualify? I have several friends with like 5-10 G's saved up that will only buy domestic. What could I recommend to them?

      I don't see how it makes a difference whether you buy a foreign used car or a domestic used car. Buying a used foreign car is not contributing to any trade deficits, and isn't helping the economy of any country, except the economy of the person selling the used car

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      05-13-2007 01:30 PM #17
      Quote, originally posted by sandiegan »
      I don't see how it makes a difference whether you buy a foreign used car or a domestic used car. Buying a used foreign car is not contributing to any trade deficits, and isn't helping the economy of any country, except the economy of the person selling the used car

      I know, I know, I already tried that, I'm not gonna try twice . And hey, buying a used domestic will surely appreciate that particular car's resale value at least .0000000000000000000001%


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      05-13-2007 01:33 PM #18
      Quote, originally posted by sandiegan »

      I don't see how it makes a difference whether you buy a foreign used car or a domestic used car. Buying a used foreign car is not contributing to any trade deficits, and isn't helping the economy of any country, except the economy of the person selling the used car

      it can change the cost of ownership though (depending of course on the car). Many European parts cost significantly more than the domestic or Japanese equivalents.


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      05-13-2007 01:35 PM #19
      I'd have to put the Crown Vic in the mix.

      Anyone who has been in a Crown Vic cab with 2XX,XXX or 3XX,XXX miles on it--after starting life (in many cases) as a police car--can't think that isn't a car with some longevity.


    20. 05-13-2007 01:40 PM #20
      Quote, originally posted by Y2kSI »
      Chevrolet Prizm.

      Smartass.....


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      05-13-2007 01:47 PM #21
      Quote, originally posted by Numbersix »
      I'd have to put the Crown Vic in the mix.

      Anyone who has been in a Crown Vic cab with 2XX,XXX or 3XX,XXX miles on it--after starting life (in many cases) as a police car--can't think that isn't a car with some longevity.

      Plus all the taxis use them even though they suck down gas, so isn't it the obvious choice?


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      05-13-2007 01:53 PM #22
      Quote, originally posted by silvERia »

      it can change the cost of ownership though (depending of course on the car). Many European parts cost significantly more than the domestic or Japanese equivalents.


      That's a good point. I think the OP's friends are wanting to buy domestic from a "Buy American" standpoint though.

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      05-13-2007 02:03 PM #23
      Quote, originally posted by sandiegan »

      That's a good point. I think the OP's friends are wanting to buy domestic from a "Buy American" standpoint though.

      could very well be.


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      05-13-2007 02:06 PM #24
      1991 Chery Caprice wagon, sold with 240k and still going strong.
      1994 buik roadmaster wagon with an lt1 engine, stock, 400k miles, still burning rubber.

    25. 05-13-2007 03:59 PM #25
      I rented an Oldsmobile Intrigue once and got 38 mpg highway on a 700 mile trip. Nice car, available cheaply. Only real problem area is that they require steering rack replacement more often than typical. It's the good old 3800 V6, but with very slippery aerodynamics.

      Another surprisingly good and very economical car is the Ford T-Bird that was built up through 2002 or 2003 (I think). I know several people with V8 T-Birds that got 35 mpg - same deal, torquey low revving engine, very slick aerodynamics, relatively light weight. I rented a 1997 TBird V8 and got about 32 mpg and couldn't believe it.


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      05-13-2007 04:08 PM #26
      Crown Vic.

    27. 05-13-2007 08:31 PM #27
      Quote, originally posted by Metallitubby »
      Crown Vic.

      chevy caprice beats the crown vic in the "runs forever" contest. my gramps had one with well over 710,000 km's and it still was burning rubber.

      i say GM's 3.8L is clear winner here


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      05-13-2007 09:00 PM #28
      I own a 3.8 GM V6 that threw a valve but it was at 184,000 miles. My Regal had only 140,000 miles but was too rusted to last any longer, the engine was fine but hated cold mornings much like my Monte which threw the valve. They are fine if well maintained, (Like almost any engine) but i'd rather have a 350 for reliability and are much more fun!
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    29. 05-14-2007 03:43 PM #29
      The Caprice/Crown Vic win the day.

      Honestly if you can live with the size and the mileage, these cars run forever.

      I would have recommended a Caprice over a Crown vic until about six years ago, when the supply of clean, low-mileage Caprices basically dried up. But there are plenty of Crown Victorias and Grand Marquis' out there. And they're cheap.

      Plus, with my Crown Victoria I just buy any spare parts I need from a discount Taxi place that services about 300 cabs. They have everything I'd ever need apart from chrome trim and interior parts, and it's all cheap.


    30. 05-14-2007 03:45 PM #30
      What about a Dodge Cummins?

      I didn't see any no-diesel rule.

      Maybe not for $5 Gs tho.


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      05-14-2007 03:47 PM #31
      I was going to say no american car has the slightest title of being called reliable etc.

      But The 3800 V6 I agree with. Had a Buick Park Ave. for a while, Never gave me any problems....


    32. 05-14-2007 03:47 PM #32
      Longest lasting domestic car: Chevrolet Chevette 'stronger than a cockroach on steroids!!1'

    33. 05-14-2007 03:48 PM #33
      Buy a Prizm or W body GM.

      Don't buy a used Dodge at any cost.


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      05-14-2007 03:49 PM #34
      SBC
      3800 V6
      Vortec 4300
      etc...

      Not that I'm a GM fanboy or anything. For the sake of fairness, I'll throw the Ford Panther platform cars in there too.


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      05-14-2007 03:49 PM #35
      Quote, originally posted by Bixmen »

      Treat a GM car right, and the drivetrain will go forever.

      As the rest of the car wastes away...

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